Re: Inline Sounds

Daniel W. Connolly (
Fri, 20 Jan 1995 01:38:00 +0100

In message <9500197905.AA790540804@inh_lan.ICC>, bl_indpls.ICC! wri
>I would like to see inline sounds (au, wav or whatever) added to HTML 3.0. Le
>me explain why.

I think we can all see the motivation for this feature.

I don't think HTML needs to change to acomodate it, though.

Links were supposed to be multimedia links from very early on. The
<IMG SRC="xxx"> tag should have been <A href="xxx" rel="embed

PLEASE... everybody go back and read the thread between TimBL,
MarcA, et. al. when the <IMG> tag was first introduced...

I gave this summary on www-talk recently:

Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 21:17:41 +0100
From: "Daniel W. Connolly" <>
To: Multiple recipients of list <>
Subject: Re: Embedding of Mime parts

In message <>, Daniel Dardailler writes:
>Hello, I'm new to this group, and I'd like to know if work has already
>been done or is going on on this subject.

Interestingly enough, this thread dates back to 1993. I spent some
time trolling the archives to see what I missed during the year from
Feb '93 to Feb '94 when I had no net access. Some of it is _very_

In response to MarcA's original proposal for an IMG tag[1], TimBL

|I had imagined that figues would be reprented as
|<a name=fig1 href="fghjkdfghj" REL="EMBED, PRESENT">Figure </a>
|where the relation ship values mean
| EMBED Embed this here when presenting it
| PRESENT Present this whenever the source document
| is presented
|Note that you can have various combinations of these, and if
|the browser doesn't support either one, it doesn't break.
|A see that using this as a method for selectable icons means nesting
|anchors. Hmmm. But I hadn't wanted a special tag.

MarcA gave his reasons for going with IMG in [3]. Basically, he wanted
to keep things simple.

But I wish I had a nickle for every time somebody came along later and
said "why isn't the <IMG> tag more general, like an <INCLUDE> tag or
something?" I'd be rich!


[1] Date: Thu, 25 Feb 93 21:09:02 -0800
From: (Marc Andreessen)
Message-id: <>
Subject: proposed new tag: IMG

[2] Date: Fri, 26 Feb 93 14:04:55 +0100
From: Tim Berners-Lee <>
Message-id: <>

[3] Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 22:32:12 -0800
From: (Marc Andreessen)
Message-id: <>

[4] See, though I can't find the ICCCM itself online.

[5] See, though I can't find the ICE spec online.